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		<title>Salmon Protocol: Comments Swimming Upstream</title>
		<link>http://jodischneider.com/blog/2010/02/03/salmon-protocol-comments-swimming-upstream/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Salmon, an aggregation protocol, is championed by Google&#8217;s John Panzer, and described as an &#8220;an open, simple, standards-based solution&#8221; for &#8220;unifying the conversations&#8221;. &#8216;Conversations&#8217; is deliberately plural, I think, to evoke the many conversations, invisible to one another: &#8220;The comments, ratings, and annotations increasingly happen at the aggregator and are invisible to the original source.&#8221; [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.salmon-protocol.org/">Salmon</a>, an aggregation protocol, is championed by Google&#8217;s <a href="http://www.abstractioneer.org/">John Panzer</a>, and described as an &#8220;an open, simple, standards-based solution&#8221; for &#8220;unifying the conversations&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8216;Conversations&#8217; is deliberately plural, I think, to evoke the many conversations, invisible to one another: &#8220;The comments, ratings, and annotations increasingly happen at the aggregator and are invisible to the original source.&#8221;</p>
<p>Using Salmon, an aggregator pushes comments back to a &#8220;Salmon endpoint&#8221; (via POST). These can be published (or moderated) upstream at the original source. See also the <a href="http://www.salmon-protocol.org/salmon-protocol-summary">summary of the Salmon protocol.</a></p>
<p>Comments swimming upstream&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Problems and Opportunities for the Social Web 2010</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jodi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a post at ZDNet, Dion Hinchcliffe delineates 7 problems of today&#8217;s social web: Fragmentation of conversation. Disconnects between older and newer generations of social media Lack of control of identity, contacts, and data. A better social Web on mobile devices. Poor integration between social media and location services. Difficulty of coherently engaging in social [...]]]></description>
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<p>In a <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Hinchcliffe/?p=1152">post at ZDNet</a>, Dion Hinchcliffe <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Hinchcliffe/?p=1152">delineates 7 problems of today&#8217;s social web:</a></p>
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<li>Fragmentation of conversation.</li>
<li>Disconnects between older and newer generations of social media</li>
<li>Lack of control of identity, contacts, and data.</li>
<li>A better social Web on mobile devices.</li>
<li>Poor integration between social media and location services.</li>
<li>Difficulty of coherently engaging in social activity across many channels.</li>
<li>Coping with and getting value from the expanding information volume of social media.</li>
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<p>from <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Hinchcliffe/?p=1152">&#8220;The social Web in 2010: The emerging standards and technologies to watch&#8221;</a> encountered via <a href=" http://asc-parc.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-are-big-research-problems-in.html">Ed H. Chi&#8217;s post</a> at the PARC Augmented Social Cognition blog.</p>
<p>The trends? Openness, portability, aggregation of distributed content. Hopefully we&#8217;ll see more on all these fronts in 2010 and beyond. Hinchcliffe also suggests that we want &#8220;Better social and location capabilities added to the core of mobile devices.&#8221;</p>
<p>See the <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Hinchcliffe/?p=1152">full post at ZDNet</a> for more discussion and references to a number of standards, formats, and related developments. In the <a href="http://jodischneider.com/blog/2010/02/03/salmon-protocol-comments-swimming-upstream/">next post</a>, I&#8217;ll highlight <a href="http://www.salmon-protocol.org/">Salmon</a>, a protocol for distributed commenting, which I&#8217;d neither encountered nor heard of.</p>
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