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		<title>Factor-based summarization</title>
		<link>http://jodischneider.com/blog/2011/12/13/factor-based-summarization/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jodi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Factor-based summarization of reviews is useful: I&#8217;m currently looking for a review of social media summarization. Any pointers?]]></description>
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<p>Factor-based summarization of reviews is useful:<br />
<a href="http://jodischneider.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/power-reviews.png"><img src="http://jodischneider.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/power-reviews.png" alt="" title="power-reviews" width="578" height="321" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2131" /></a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently looking for a review of social media summarization. Any pointers?</p>
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		<title>A Review of Argumentation for the Social Semantic Web</title>
		<link>http://jodischneider.com/blog/2011/12/06/a-review-of-argumentation-for-the-social-semantic-web/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jodi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m very pleased to share our &#8220;A Review of Argumentation for the Social Semantic Web&#8220;. You are very warmly invited to review this paper. You can post the review as a comment to the manuscript page publicly at SWJ&#8217;s website. Informal comments by email are also welcome. Open review I adore SWJ&#8217;s open review process: [...]]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m very pleased to share our &#8220;<a href="http://www.semantic-web-journal.net/content/review-argumentation-social-semantic-web">A Review of Argumentation for the Social Semantic Web</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p>You are very warmly invited to review this paper. You can post the review as a comment to the <a href="http://www.semantic-web-journal.net/content/review-argumentation-social-semantic-web">manuscript page</a> publicly at SWJ&#8217;s website. Informal comments by email are also welcome.</p>
<h2>Open review</h2>
<p>I adore SWJ&#8217;s <a href="http://www.semantic-web-journal.net/reviewers#review">open review process</a>: publicly available manuscripts are useful. In 11 months the landing page has had &#8220;1208 reads&#8221; and I&#8217;m sure that not all of those are mine! Further, knowing who reviewed a paper can add credibility to the process. (It means quite a lot to me when Simon Buckingham-Shum says &#8220;I anticipate that this will become a standard reference for the field.&#8221;!)</p>
<h2>Two earlier versions</h2>
<p>The paper evolved from <a href="http://jodischneider.com/pubs/firstyearPhDreport2009-10.pdf">my first year Ph.D. report</a>. In the process of defining my Ph.D. topic, I reviewed the state-of-art of argumentation for the Social Semantic Web. This was further developed in conversations with my coauthors, my colleague <a href="http://tudorgroza.org">Tudor Groza</a> and my advisor <a href="http://apassant.net/">Alexandre Passant</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.semantic-web-journal.net/sites/default/files/swj138.pdf">The outdated first journal submission</a> is available; May&#8217;s reviews refer to this version. A <a href="http://jodischneider.com/pubs/swj-argumentationreview-2011-cover-to-seconddraft.pdf">cover letter responding to the reviews</a> summarizes what has changed. Shared since I am always encouraged by seeing how others&#8217; work and ideas have developed over time! So read the <a href="http://www.semantic-web-journal.net/sites/default/files/swj138_0.pdf">most recent version</a>, and let us know what you think!</p>
<p><!--Local copies of the <a href="http://jodischneider.com/pubs/swj-argumentationreview-2010-firstdraft.pdf">original</a> and <a href="http://jodischneider.com/pubs/swj-argumentationreview-2011-seconddraft.pdf">revised</a> manuscript are also available&#8211;></p>
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		<title>Argumentation on Twitter</title>
		<link>http://jodischneider.com/blog/2011/11/19/argumentation-on-twitter/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jodi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s an argument made on Twitter: Difference between cakes and biscuits? When stale, cakes go hard, biscuits go soft. Hence Jaffa Cakes are cakes. (Was official EU ruling). I just love this example: First, you can find it with &#8220;hence&#8221; (see cue phrases from an appendix to Marcu&#8216;s thesis). Second, the notion of this EU [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jaffa_cake.png"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2065" title="320px-Jaffa_cake" src="http://jodischneider.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/320px-Jaffa_cake.png" alt="" width="320" height="145" /></a> Here&#8217;s an <a href="http://Twitter.com/#!/robeastaway/status/135838892694839296">argument made on Twitter</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Difference between cakes and biscuits? When stale, cakes go hard, biscuits go soft. Hence Jaffa Cakes are cakes. (Was official EU ruling).</p></blockquote>
<p>I just love this example:</p>
<ol>
<li>First, you can find it with &#8220;hence&#8221; (see cue phrases from an appendix to <a href="http://www.isi.edu/~marcu/">Marcu</a>&#8216;s thesis).</li>
<li>Second, the notion of this EU (tax) ruling amuses me.</li>
<li>Third, it shows that 140 characters is enough for a complex argumentative structure. This has three main claims: When stale, cakes go hard, biscuits go soft; Jaffa Cakes are cakes; and [Jaffa Cakes are cakes due to] official EU ruling.</li>
<li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enthymeme">Enthymemes</a> anyone?</li>
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<p>It&#8217;s hard, though, to draw the line between an argument and an explanation in this context.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_cake">Jaffa Cakes</a>, for you North American readers, are a common dessert-y snack in Ireland and the UK. Vaguely like <a href="http://www.tastykake.com/products/kandykakes">Kandy Kakes</a> found in the Philadelphia area/East Coast, but usually have an orange filling.</p>
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		<title>Time-based comments</title>
		<link>http://jodischneider.com/blog/2011/11/14/time-based-comments/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jodi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been digging SoundCloud lately. Today I noticed time-based comments in their tracks. It&#8217;s a bit disorienting to have comments pop up as you&#8217;re listening. Maybe after adjusting, there&#8217;s a pleasant sense of having a conversation going on around you. Definitely feels like you&#8217;ve got company! Avatars appear below the track to indicate that there [...]]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve been digging <a href="http://soundcloud.com/">SoundCloud</a> lately.</p>
<p>Today I noticed time-based comments in their tracks. It&#8217;s a bit disorienting to have comments pop up as you&#8217;re listening. Maybe after adjusting, there&#8217;s a pleasant sense of having a conversation going on around you. Definitely feels like you&#8217;ve got company!</p>
<div id="attachment_2046" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://jodischneider.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/comments-pop-up.png"><img src="http://jodischneider.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/comments-pop-up-300x139.png" alt="" title="comments-pop-up" width="300" height="139" class="size-medium wp-image-2046" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Comments pop up as the track plays</p></div>
<p>Avatars appear below the track to indicate that there are comments, and you can scroll over avatars to read comments. You can also hide the comments if you prefer.<br />
<div id="attachment_2047" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 133px"><a href="http://jodischneider.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/click-to-enter-a-comment.png"><img src="http://jodischneider.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/click-to-enter-a-comment.png" alt="" title="click-to-enter-a-comment" width="123" height="144" class="size-full wp-image-2047" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Entering a comment from the timeline</p></div><br />
<div id="attachment_2045" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://jodischneider.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/overview-has-avatar-icons.png"><img src="http://jodischneider.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/overview-has-avatar-icons-300x71.png" alt="Comments are indicated by avatar icons in the full view." title="overview-has-avatar-icons" width="300" height="71" class="size-medium wp-image-2045" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Avatar icons appear in the overview</p></div></p>
<p><a href="http://soundcloud.com/alestorm/shipwrecked">Example track</a> due to Duncan.</p>
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		<title>YouTube &#8220;I dislike this&#8221; button</title>
		<link>http://jodischneider.com/blog/2011/11/14/youtube-i-dislike-this-button/</link>
		<comments>http://jodischneider.com/blog/2011/11/14/youtube-i-dislike-this-button/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jodi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few weeks ago, I noticed something new on YouTube: an &#8220;I dislike this&#8221; button. I wonder how long that&#8217;s been there? &#160; When I talk about online argumentation, a frequent comment is &#8220;too bad there&#8217;s only +1 and Like; we need more expressivity&#8221;. See related discussions: Misusing like Mood classification on GetSatisfaction Using reactions [...]]]></description>
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<p>A few weeks ago, I noticed something new on YouTube: an &#8220;I dislike this&#8221; button.</p>
<p><a href="http://jodischneider.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/youtube-I-dislike-this-button.png"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2040" title="youtube-I-dislike-this-button" src="http://jodischneider.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/youtube-I-dislike-this-button.png" alt="" width="286" height="68" /></a></p>
<p>I wonder how long that&#8217;s been there?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>When I talk about online argumentation, a frequent comment is &#8220;too bad there&#8217;s only +1 and Like; we need more expressivity&#8221;.</p>
<p>See related discussions:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://jodischneider.com/blog/2010/10/20/like-and-its-misuse/">Misusing like</a></li>
<li><a href="http://jodischneider.com/blog/2011/01/10/how-does-this-make-you-feel/">Mood classification on GetSatisfaction</a></li>
<li><a href="http://jodischneider.com/blog/2010/11/02/blog-reactions/">Using reactions instead of comments on blogs</a></li>
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		<title>OH: Informal argumentation</title>
		<link>http://jodischneider.com/blog/2011/10/31/oh-informal-argumentation/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jodi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday I overheard two guys talking in the grocery store: I am more of a John Lennon than you are. The response? My hair has more volume, therefore I am. A brief, informal argument. Halloween-themed, I presume.]]></description>
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<p>Yesterday I overheard two guys talking in the grocery store:</p>
<blockquote><p>I am more of a John Lennon than you are.</p></blockquote>
<p>The response?</p>
<blockquote><p>My hair has more volume, therefore <strong>I</strong> am.</p></blockquote>
<p>A brief, informal argument. Halloween-themed, I presume.</p>
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		<title>Reading Group talk: Using Controlled Natural Language and First Order Logic to improve e-consultation discussion forums</title>
		<link>http://jodischneider.com/blog/2011/09/07/reading-group-talk-using-controlled-natural-language-and-first-order-logic-to-improve-e-consultation-discussion-forums/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 10:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jodi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today the DERI Reading Group starts up again for the fall. I&#8217;m talking about three papers from the IMPACT project. For now this is just to provide my colleagues with links; check back later for slides, etc.Scroll down for slides and video. Adam Wyner and Tom van Engers. A Framework for Enriched, Controlled On-line Discussion [...]]]></description>
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<p>Today the <a href="http://www.deri.ie/teaching/reading-groups/">DERI Reading Group</a> starts up again for the fall. I&#8217;m talking about three papers from the <a title="IMPACT Project - Project Summary" href="http://www.policy-impact.eu/project-summary">IMPACT project</a>.</p>
<p><del datetime="2011-09-09T19:59:56+00:00">For now this is just to provide my colleagues with links; check back later for slides, etc.</del><ins datetime="2011-09-09T19:59:56+00:00">Scroll down for slides and video.</ins></p>
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<li>Adam Wyner and Tom van Engers. <a title="A Framework for Enriched, Controlled On-line Discussion Forums for e-Government Policy-making" href="http://wyner.info/research/Papers/WynerVanEngersForum2010.pdf">A Framework for Enriched, Controlled On-line Discussion Forums for e-Government Policy-making</a>. EGOVIS 2010. <a href="http://acawiki.org/A_framework_for_enriched,_controlled_on-line_discussion_forums_for_e-government_policy-making">AcaWiki Summary</a></li>
<li>Adam Wyner, Tom van Enger, and Kiavash Bahreini. <a title="From Policy-making Statements to First-order Logic" href="http://wyner.info/research/Papers/WynerVanEngersBahreini2010.pdf">From Policy-making Statements to First-order Logic</a>. Electronic Government and Electronic Participation 2010. <a href="http://acawiki.org/From_policy-making_statements_to_first-order_logic">AcaWiki Summary</a></li>
<li>Adam Wyner and Tom van Enger. <a title="Towards Web-based Mass Argumentation in Natural Language" href="http://wyner.info/research/Papers/WynerVanEngersEKAW2010.pdf">Towards Web-based Mass Argumentation in Natural Language</a>. (long version of <a href="http://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/Publications/CEUR-WS/Vol-674/Paper136.pdf"> this EKAW 2010 poster</a>). <a href="http://acawiki.org/Towards_Web-based_mass_argumentation_in_natural_language">AcaWiki Summary</a></li>
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		<title>Forking conversations, forking documents</title>
		<link>http://jodischneider.com/blog/2011/08/07/forking-conversations-forking-documents/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 23:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jodi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When the topic of discussion changes, how do you indicate that? Tender Support seems clunky in some ways, but their forking mechanism helps conversations stay focused on their topic: Lately forking has also been on my mind as the Library Linked Data group edits and reorganizes our draft report: wiki history and version control is [...]]]></description>
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<p>When the topic of discussion changes, how do you indicate that? Tender Support seems clunky in some ways, but their forking mechanism helps conversations stay focused on their topic:</p>
<div id="attachment_1917" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 585px"><a href="http://jodischneider.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/tenderapp-forking.png"><img src="http://jodischneider.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/tenderapp-forking.png" alt="" title="tenderapp-forking" width="575" height="269" class="size-full wp-image-1917" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Forking with Tender Support</p></div>
<p>Lately forking has also <a href="http://twitter.com/#!/jschneider/status/99401111173210113">been on my mind</a> as the Library Linked Data group edits and reorganizes our <a href="http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/DraftReportWithTransclusion">draft report</a>: wiki history and version control is helpful, but insufficient. What I miss most is a &#8220;fork&#8221; feature, where you could temporarily take ownership of a copy (socially, this indicates that something is a possibility, rather than the consensus; technically, it indicates provenance, would allow &#8220;show all forks of this&#8221;, and might help in merge changes back). Perhaps naming and tagging particular history items in MediaWiki could help address this, but I think really I want something like git.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen a few examples of <a href="https://github.com/anarchivist/conferencenotes">writing</a> and <a href="https://bitbucket.org/gsf/papers">editing</a> prose with git; I&#8217;d like to get a better understanding of the best practices for making collaborative changes in texts with distributed version control systems. Surely somebody&#8217;s written up manuals on this?</p>
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		<title>Wikipedia and the World Wide Argument Web</title>
		<link>http://jodischneider.com/blog/2011/02/27/wikipedia-and-the-world-wide-argument-web/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I spoke about my first year Ph.D. research in December at DERI. The topic of my talk: Wikipedia discussions and the nascent World Wide Argument Web. I was proud to have the video (below) posted to our institute video stream. The Wikipedia research is drawn from our ACM Symposium on Applied Computing paper: Jodi Schneider, [...]]]></description>
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<p>I spoke about my first year Ph.D. research in December at <a href="http://www.deri.ie/">DERI</a>. The topic of my talk: Wikipedia discussions and the nascent World Wide Argument Web. I was proud to have the <a href="http://vimeo.com/18708378">video</a> (below) posted to our institute video stream.</p>
<p>The Wikipedia research is drawn from our ACM Symposium on Applied Computing paper:<br />
Jodi Schneider, Alexandre Passant, John G. Breslin, “<a href="http://jodischneider.com/pubs/sac2011.pdf">Understanding and Improving Wikipedia Article Discussion Spaces</a>.” In SAC 2011 (Web Track), TaiChung, Taiwan, March 21-25, 2011.</p>
<p><iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/18708378" width="400" height="300" frameborder="0"></iframe>
<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/18708378">Jodi Schneider &#8211; Constructing knowledge through argument: Wikipedia and World Wide Argument Web</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/deri">DERI, NUI Galway</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
<div style="width:425px" id="__ss_6020554"><strong style="display:block;margin:12px 0 4px"><a href="http://www.slideshare.net/jodischneider/wikipedia-and-world-wide-argument-web-deri-meeting-20101203" title="Wikipedia and World Wide Argument Web (DERI meeting 2010-12-03)">Wikipedia and World Wide Argument Web (DERI meeting 2010-12-03)</a></strong><object id="__sse6020554" width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://static.slidesharecdn.com/swf/ssplayer2.swf?doc=wikipediaandworldwideargumentweb-derimeeting2010-12-03-101203102759-phpapp02&#038;rel=0&#038;stripped_title=wikipedia-and-world-wide-argument-web-deri-meeting-20101203&#038;userName=jodischneider" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"/><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"/><embed name="__sse6020554" src="http://static.slidesharecdn.com/swf/ssplayer2.swf?doc=wikipediaandworldwideargumentweb-derimeeting2010-12-03-101203102759-phpapp02&#038;rel=0&#038;stripped_title=wikipedia-and-world-wide-argument-web-deri-meeting-20101203&#038;userName=jodischneider" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>
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<p>This is ongoing work, and feedback is most welcome.</p>
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		<title>What a text means: genre matters</title>
		<link>http://jodischneider.com/blog/2011/02/26/what-a-text-means-genre-matters/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jodi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you distinguish what is being said from how it is said? In other words, what is a &#8216;proposition&#8217;? Giving an operational definition of &#8216;proposition&#8217; or of &#8216;propositional content&#8217; is difficult. Turns out there&#8217;s a reason for that: Metadiscourse does not simply support propositional content: it is the means by which propositional content is made [...]]]></description>
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<p>Can you distinguish <em>what</em> is being said from <em>how</em> it is said?<br />
In other words, what is a &#8216;proposition&#8217;? </p>
<p>Giving an operational definition of  &#8216;proposition&#8217; or of &#8216;propositional content&#8217; is difficult. Turns out there&#8217;s a reason for that:</p>
<blockquote><p>Metadiscourse does not simply support propositional content: it is the means by which propositional content is made coherent, intelligible and persuasive to a particular audience.</p></blockquote>
<p> &#8211; Ken Hyland <em>Metadiscourse</em> p39<sup><a href="http://jodischneider.com/blog/2011/02/26/what-a-text-means-genre-matters/#footnote_0_1633" id="identifier_0_1633" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title="I&amp;#8217;m really enjoying Ken Hyland&amp;#8217;s Metadiscourse. Thanks to Sean O&amp;#8217;Riain for a wonderful loan! I&amp;#8217;m not ready to summarize his thoughts about what metadiscourse is &amp;#8212; for one thing I&amp;#8217;m only halfway through.">1</a></sup>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very struck by how the same content can be wrapped with different metadiscourse &#8212; resulting in different genres for distinct audiences. When the &#8220;same&#8221; content is reformulated, new meanings and emphasis may be added along the way. Popularization of science is rich in examples.</p>
<p>For instance, a <em>Science</em> article&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>When branches of the host plant having similar oviposition sites were placed in the area, no investigations were made by the <em>H. hewitsoni</em> females.
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<p>gets transformed into a <em>Scientific American</em> article&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>I collected lengths of P. pittieri vines with newly developed shoots and placed them in the patch of vines that was being regular revisited. The females did not, however, investigate the potential egg-laying sites I had supplied.
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<p>This shows the difficulty of making clean separations between the content and the metadiscourse: </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The &#8216;content&#8217;, or subject matter, remains the same but the meanings have changed considerably. This is because the <em>meaning</em> of a text is not just about the propositional material or what the text could be said to be <em>about</em>. It is the complete package, the result of an interactive process between the producer and receiver of a text in which the writer chooses forms and expressions which will best convey his or her material, stance and attitudes.</p></blockquote>
<p>- Ken Hyland <em>Metadiscourse</em> p39</p>
<p>Example from Hyland (page 21), which credits Myers <em>Writing Biology: Texts in the Social Construction of Scientific Knowledge</em> 1990 (180).</p>
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